I love that video so much! Star Wars rules and Star Trek drools as they say. From last comments thread: Gawains, I am an ardent opponent of debt, but manageable debt by the prudent is ok. Plus, what good is money if you cannot have a little fun? You cannot take it with you! Go for the RX-8, it seems to really be on your mind and enjoy it. Gotta have a little fun, yes?
Absolutely! You are not going to line your coffin with it as my brother is apt to say. Having said that though my brother and I are debt free (houses included) and pretty frugal, we like bargains. When I seen new Bullitts selling for what the used ones were being offered for on Ebay (not that they were selling for that on Ebay mind you) that's when I couldn't pass up a new one, plus I like a car that has never been smoked in and I don't have to worry if it had it's oil changed on time. Yes I had to pay extra for that but it is worth it to me being as I will probably have this car till my daughter takes it from me or the "Mad Max" scenario happens : )
G35X's are cool, RX8's are cool and life is short.
Watchtower, exactly! There is no point to being prudent and saving if that is the only endpoint. I have about zero debt, but I do indulge in Allen Brothers steaks, Infiniti cars, gold and silver bullion (you all knew that), vacations, and books. We all have to remember to enjoy life and the fruits of our efforts otherwise, whats the point? Great dialogue all, I am so proud to have readers with so much depth and thought as you all.
I'm awake, only because I'm in dire pain :( Definitely feeling old, LOL, bad eyesight in the dark...tripped over a curb while walking my 3 dogs...fell hard, but nothing broken. I will be feeling this for days. Damn. Anyway, speaking of debt, here's the NY Times latest assesment. (some yahoos from the healthcare industry are meeting with Obama tomorrow, to explain that they can same money for his healthcare plan by paying doctors less. Wow, genius)
"NYT comments on the US credit card market - According to some experts, millions of Americans will not be able to pay offer their debts. - According to the recent stress test results, the US' 19 largest banks could expect about $82.4B in credit card losses by the end of 2010 under what was classified as a "worst case" economic situation. - But if unemployment moves above 10%, many economist predict, the rate of uncollectible balances at some banks could far exceed that level. - According to the stress test results, at American Express and Capital One, approximately 20% of the credit card balances are expected to go bad over this year and next. - At Bank of America, Citi, and JP Morgan, about 23% of card loans are expected to sour."
Well, just to chime in here, I totally agree. Life is short, death is quick, God is great, Jesus is love.
So I'm going to buy that RX-8 (silver, fully loaded, with a moon roof) and go out in style, wearing a tailored suit while driving.
I can manage the debt, and I can deal with the depreciation. Especially since I won't be driving the Mazda all that much, so it will retain more of its value than it would otherwise.
I'm going to do it! Because, as Steve McQueen once said, "You are what you drive." I am not a 16-year old truck with 200,000 miles. I am a brand new, pristine sports car, built to perfection.
Yes, that's it. That's what I am. But the thing is that I hate to have to manage the debt. I can, but I won't like it. Although I will admit that the joy of driving a new sports car outweighs the sadness of having to pay for it.
I'm with Dave Ramsey on a lot of things. Debt is dumb, cash is king, and the paid off home mortgage takes the place of a BMW as the status symbol of choice.
I don't have debt, well except for one student loan ($175/month), I do have cash, and I don't have a mortgage payment to make. But I wouldn't drive a BMW if you paid me to. I hate those cars, Mercedes too. And I'm not too fond of Porsche either.
What is the point of having money if you're not able to spend it on what you want? Not much. GYC is perfectly correct, you can't take it with you, and you certainly can't line your coffin with it.
Life is for living. I've been entirely too frugral for too many years. Other than flying my brother down for Cowboys games, I haven't even take a vacation for ten years. So I think I owe myself a little reward.
Yeah, I know, GYC, you're a Patriots fan. They're a good team, I'm not going to deny it. But I will say this. They didn't start winning until they changed their emblem to include a star. So they had to copy the Cowboys before they could win a Super Bowl. Take that, stuff it in your pipe and smoke it. Along with your anti-Beatles diatribes.
Just kidding. You know I love you, man. But if the Cowboys should improbably actually win a playoff game, advance to the Super Bowl and face the Patriots, we will become mortal enemies for about three hours.
I love my Cowboys. You love your Patriots. And if the two should clash for a championship, we will hate each other for one game. But win or lose, we'll respect each other afterwards. That's the nature of the beast.
On a side note, I thought this video was hilarious. But let's get real serious here. The original Starship Enterprise, with Captain Kirk at the helm, would have destroyed the Death Star. We all know it. Kirk would have changed the rules of the game in order to win. It would be the Kobayashi Maru all over again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru
I stand with Kirk. I don't believe in a no-win situation. And I know you don't either.
Now that is funny!
ReplyDeleteJames T. Kirk just got redshirted!
I love that video so much! Star Wars rules and Star Trek drools as they say.
ReplyDeleteFrom last comments thread:
Gawains,
I am an ardent opponent of debt, but manageable debt by the prudent is ok. Plus, what good is money if you cannot have a little fun? You cannot take it with you! Go for the RX-8, it seems to really be on your mind and enjoy it. Gotta have a little fun, yes?
GYSC sezs:
ReplyDelete"Gotta have a little fun, yes?"
Absolutely! You are not going to line your coffin with it as my brother is apt to say.
Having said that though my brother and I are debt free (houses included) and pretty frugal, we like bargains.
When I seen new Bullitts selling for what the used ones were being offered for on Ebay (not that they were selling for that on Ebay mind you) that's when I couldn't pass up a new one, plus I like a car that has never been smoked in and I don't have to worry if it had it's oil changed on time.
Yes I had to pay extra for that but it is worth it to me being as I will probably have this car till my daughter takes it from me or the "Mad Max" scenario happens : )
G35X's are cool, RX8's are cool and life is short.
Watchtower,
ReplyDeleteexactly! There is no point to being prudent and saving if that is the only endpoint. I have about zero debt, but I do indulge in Allen Brothers steaks, Infiniti cars, gold and silver bullion (you all knew that), vacations, and books. We all have to remember to enjoy life and the fruits of our efforts otherwise, whats the point?
Great dialogue all, I am so proud to have readers with so much depth and thought as you all.
I'm awake, only because I'm in dire pain :( Definitely feeling old, LOL, bad eyesight in the dark...tripped over a curb while walking my 3 dogs...fell hard, but nothing broken. I will be feeling this for days. Damn. Anyway, speaking of debt, here's the NY Times latest assesment. (some yahoos from the healthcare industry are meeting with Obama tomorrow, to explain that they can same money for his healthcare plan by paying doctors less. Wow, genius)
ReplyDelete"NYT comments on the US credit card market
- According to some experts, millions of Americans will not be able to pay offer their debts.
- According to the recent stress test results, the US' 19 largest banks could expect about $82.4B in credit card losses by the end of 2010 under what was classified as a "worst case" economic situation.
- But if unemployment moves above 10%, many economist predict, the rate of uncollectible balances at some banks could far exceed that level.
- According to the stress test results, at American Express and Capital One, approximately 20% of the credit card balances are expected to go bad over this year and next.
- At Bank of America, Citi, and JP Morgan, about 23% of card loans are expected to sour."
Well, just to chime in here, I totally agree. Life is short, death is quick, God is great, Jesus is love.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm going to buy that RX-8 (silver, fully loaded, with a moon roof) and go out in style, wearing a tailored suit while driving.
I can manage the debt, and I can deal with the depreciation. Especially since I won't be driving the Mazda all that much, so it will retain more of its value than it would otherwise.
I'm going to do it! Because, as Steve McQueen once said, "You are what you drive." I am not a 16-year old truck with 200,000 miles. I am a brand new, pristine sports car, built to perfection.
Yes, that's it. That's what I am. But the thing is that I hate to have to manage the debt. I can, but I won't like it. Although I will admit that the joy of driving a new sports car outweighs the sadness of having to pay for it.
I'm with Dave Ramsey on a lot of things. Debt is dumb, cash is king, and the paid off home mortgage takes the place of a BMW as the status symbol of choice.
I don't have debt, well except for one student loan ($175/month), I do have cash, and I don't have a mortgage payment to make. But I wouldn't drive a BMW if you paid me to. I hate those cars, Mercedes too. And I'm not too fond of Porsche either.
What is the point of having money if you're not able to spend it on what you want? Not much. GYC is perfectly correct, you can't take it with you, and you certainly can't line your coffin with it.
Life is for living. I've been entirely too frugral for too many years. Other than flying my brother down for Cowboys games, I haven't even take a vacation for ten years. So I think I owe myself a little reward.
Yeah, I know, GYC, you're a Patriots fan. They're a good team, I'm not going to deny it. But I will say this. They didn't start winning until they changed their emblem to include a star. So they had to copy the Cowboys before they could win a Super Bowl. Take that, stuff it in your pipe and smoke it. Along with your anti-Beatles diatribes.
Just kidding. You know I love you, man. But if the Cowboys should improbably actually win a playoff game, advance to the Super Bowl and face the Patriots, we will become mortal enemies for about three hours.
I love my Cowboys. You love your Patriots. And if the two should clash for a championship, we will hate each other for one game. But win or lose, we'll respect each other afterwards. That's the nature of the beast.
On a side note, I thought this video was hilarious. But let's get real serious here. The original Starship Enterprise, with Captain Kirk at the helm, would have destroyed the Death Star. We all know it. Kirk would have changed the rules of the game in order to win. It would be the Kobayashi Maru all over again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru
I stand with Kirk. I don't believe in a no-win situation. And I know you don't either.
Imagine "Bones" saying this to Captain Kirk:
ReplyDelete"Dammit Jim! Why did you have to put that red shirt on with the Death Star so close, are you trying to get us all killed?"
Monday afternoon must see video. Heaven and Hell, the new band with Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, Ronnie James Dio, and Vinnie Appiche.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.heavenandhelllive.com:80/index.cfm/pk/view/cd/NAA/cdid/403722/pid/400079
Album to be released soon. Tour most likely to follow shortly thereafter.